Breakout room 1- Ron, Cindy, Michael, Leon, Lysa
ID:
Michael- id is instinctual desires: “It is filled with energy reaching it from the instincts, but it has no organization produces no collective will, but only a striving to bring about the satisfaction of the instinctual needs”
Cindy- The id is comprised of pure instinct and urges: “The id of course knows no judgements of value: no good and evil, no morality.”
Lysa- The Id is in the unconscious mind when a baby is born. Collection of urges waiting for it to be fulfilled. “We approach the id with analogies: we call it a chaos, a cauldron full of seething excitations. We picture it as being open at its end to somatic influences, and as taking up into itself instinctual needs which find their psychical expression in it.”
Leon- The recesses of the mind “Wishful impulses which have never passed beyond the id,
but impressions, too, which have been sunk into the id by repression, are virtually immortal; after the passage of decades they behave as though they had just occurred.”
Ron- The id is found totally in the unconscious. For example, “It is filled with energy reaching it from the instincts, but it has no organization, produces no collective will, but only a striving to bring about the satisfaction of the instinctual needs subject to the observance of the pleasure principle” (Freud n.p.g). It’s the instincts and desires that are in the unconscious mind which are not allowed to be emotionally displayed, they don’t act upon those urges.
Ego:
Michael- the ego is the mediator between the Id, superego, and the real world. It chooses an appropriate way and time to perform what the Id wants and is then judged by the superego: “The poor ego has things even worse: it serves three severe masters and does what it can to bring their claims and demands into harmony with one another. These claims are always divergent and often seem incompatible. No wonder that the ego so often fails in its task. Its three tyrannical masters are the external world, the super-ego and the id”
Leon- “The relation to the external world has become the decisive factor for the ego.”
“Its three tyrannical masters are the external world, the super-ego and the id.” The ego is best analyzed in relation to these “tyrannical masters”
Ron- The Ego is what balances the Id and Superego. For example, “It is the sense-organ of the entire apparatus; moreover it is receptive not only to excitations from outside but also to those arising from the interior of the mind (Freud n.p.g).
Cindy- The ego is a balance between the id and superego and it is a portion of the id that has learned and adapted to the external world: “…it has taken on the task of representing the external world to the id…”
Lysa- The Ego is letting you know that your desires may not always be fulfilled. “The ego controls the approaches to motility under the id’s orders; but between a need and an action it has interposed a postponement in the form of the activity of thought,1 during which it makes use of the mnemic residues of experience.”
Superego:
Michael- the superego is your conscience, it judges the ego on its choices and reprimands or praises it :”The super-ego applies the strictest moral standard to the helpless ego which is at its mercy; in general it represents the claims of morality, and we realize all at once that our moral sense of guilt is the expression of the tension between the ego and the super-ego.”
Ron- The superego is part of the conscious mind. In other terms, it’s like perfection for human morals. The superego also acts upon the egos. For example, “It is also the vehicle of the ego ideal by which the ego measures itself, which it emulates, and whose demand for ever greater perfection it strives to fulfil” (Freud 5).
Leon- it “takes over the power, function and even the methods of the parental agency.” Takes the role of the parent in a form of identification.
Cindy- The superego is kind of an offshoot of the ego since it’s mainly comprised of what was observed from the external world, but it takes it to a higher degree and has a higher moral standard: “The superego applies the strictest moral standard to the helpless ego which is at its mercy…”
Lysa- The superego is also found in your conscience. According to Freud “The superego seems to have made a one-sided choice and to have picked out only the parents’ strictness and severity, their prohibiting and punitive function, whereas their loving care seems not to have been taken over and maintained.” (Freud 4)